MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2010 7:00:06 PM
If the result of prices going up is a boycott working.
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BobD2009
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2010 5:09:07 PM
There are more than one of us. If enough people participate it could work. My area loves to boycott, and the April 1, 2010 boycott worked but it is something that you can't do just once.
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RHINO4
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2010 11:42:10 AM
I check gas prices and only buy at the lower priced stations. I check all stations on my route to work or to anywhere I am going. I take two 5 gallon gas cans with me. On my way home I fill up my truck and the cans with gas that has been as much as 20 cents cheaper than near home. When I get home I pour the cans of gas into our other car which never has to be driven to a gas station. This is how I boycott higher priced stations.
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BobD2009
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 5:49:09 AM
scoutmaster: You could be right, however if we don't try it definitely won't work. The more participation the greater the chance it will be affective.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:26:12 AM
Not really Bob. Even if we want it to work it might not work.
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BobD2009
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 6:42:57 AM
Another words it won't work if we don't want it to work. Answer, we better make it work before everyone else has all our money oil tycoons and the government.
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DrLyon
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2010 10:59:51 AM
Hard to get people motivated...
Hope the Haiti telethon helped last night...
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2010 3:46:03 PM
Well, we are open-minded around here.
But trust me; it will come back to boycotts and fans leaving high school football games and CHICAGOLAND.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2010 6:35:39 AM
Boy did this get off topic!
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2010 12:49:19 AM
I see no problem with this thread or topic or most any other - they all serve a purpose to some & posting or complaining for points equates!
Also observe how locking threads actually creates more!
If I dont like or wish to post under just for fun then no problem - I dont have to read or comment!
Same goes for threads under religions - travel - polls - whatever!
Its all good!
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2010 8:21:55 AM
BCERB:
The only significant difference to me between the "for points" versus the "discussion" (pro or con), is that there are so many tens of thousands of "for points" topics already there, and people just keep creating new ones, meaning that more thoughtful topics get caught in the middle and can be easily overlooked (I won't necessarily say more intelligent topics, but hopefully anyway, more thoughtful).
Serious comment: I'd rather see you disagree with some commentary as to why I'm wrong (or not right, or, for that matter, even why I'm blind to the obviouis) me than simply have you write: XXX, 1, Tuesday, 12345, 20 points, and so on.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2010 6:37:56 AM
100% correct Gas_Buddy. It's better to have interesting topics than those useless topics just to get points~
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2010 11:33:20 PM
I see no problem & no difference between posting for points or complaining for points!
If the topic bothers someone - dont read dont respond!
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2010 5:43:11 PM
Same questions:
What's your testing criteria and your standards for testing?
As for why not lock it, well, there've been several posts and it's seemed to start a new life. I'd rather see older threads that someone is interested in be restarted, even if it's after a long period of time, than starting new ones. Some of the older comments are insightful (even if dated). Besides, isn't it better to have thoughtful discussion revised than tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of one word, one number, post for points threads?
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2010 4:41:06 PM
I get 20 mpg in my 4Runner around town. With Sunoco I get 17 mpg. Terrible.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2010 4:19:32 PM
This topic was dead for months why don't the mods lock it?
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2010 12:08:54 PM
Just asking but what do you mean by "terrible mileage". Do you get, say, 10 miles to the gallon when you use Sunoco and 20 miles to the gallon when you use anything else?
Does this happen all the time that Sunoco gives you bad mileage, and nothing else gives you bad mileage?
What's your testing criteria? What other brands are you running your fuel tests with? Assuming you're using the same roads and driving under the same conditions (controlled testing), how many tanks of Sunoco do you use to develop your baseline mileage figures, versus how many tanks of anything else (assuming you're using one brand at a time for your testing) do you use to develop your baseline mileage figures.Not sure why you have heard that Citgo is the "worst gas you can get". I've never heard anything bad about the quality of their gas. You might disagree with Venezuela's politics, but that has nothing to do with the quality of their gas.
Just asking so I get a better understanding.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2010 11:16:32 AM
I don't buy Sunoco because I get terrible mileage. I have heard Citgo is the worst gas you can get.
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Hunter114
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2010 9:03:41 AM
There's one brand I refuse to buy, and that's Citgo.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2010 6:39:25 AM
That could be true in the Great White North but in the USA, there is one.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2010 6:35:40 AM
As I said, there was NEVER a transaction fee for credit card transactions at any business I worked at, NEVER. The card issuers make plenty off the percentage rip-off, and the terminal operators make plenty off the monthly rentals and/or network fees.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2010 7:11:31 AM
Just reading this now rumbleseat. Well there is a transaction fee for each credit card transaction. The last time I did this, the store turned the pump off after 4 restarts.
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BlackHorse
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2010 11:10:36 PM
they will never work because you cant get enough people to co-operate
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2009 5:09:33 PM
scoutmaster, pick the right day at the right station to act like that, and you will give the employees something to laugh about. Whether a station, or any business, pays a transaction fee is totally dependent on the card agreement with the business. I never once worked any place that had a transaction fee for credit cards, it was a percentage. Until you see the statements at the end of the month, you don't realize just how much money it adds up to. The last busy office I worked in paid more to the bank in fees than to any employee in the company.
Note there is also fixed fee every month just for the priviledge of having a terminal that allowed the provider to skim off those thousands of dollars, not to mention the phone line required is not free.
However, we paid a transaction fee for debit cards. The highest we ever paid was 17 cents, it settled at 12 cents after a few years, and never a percentage fee.
Canada has had, for many years, greater use of debit cards than any other country in the world, France has the second greatest usage.
[Edited by: rumbleseat at 8/28/2009 5:14:11 PM EST]
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2009 11:14:02 AM
Its true that stations are charged a merchant fee each time a customer uses a Major credit card but I can hear it now.
Some big oil apologist or former retailer is going to chime in & say... but that will hurt honest hard working employees & the poor retailer!
Wont someone please think of the children!
All because of added credit processing fees!They will claim if people do what you suggest then the station wont be able to take a tiny sliver of the customers money to send little Timmy to baseball camp which is a tax writeoff & promotion for the station anyways! All this does is allow the retailer to appear like good corporate citizens who care in the eyes of the public consumer.
When in reality they are an entity to serve themselves & could care less.
Just as long as they give the impression that they do!
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2009 7:59:42 AM
Instead of a boycott try this!
The next time you go to fill up using a credit card, do it $5 at a time. Pump $5. Turn the pump off & start over. Repeat this until your tank is full.
When the stations keep the prices high, buying $5 on a credit card cuts into their profit. They pay a fee per transaction so every time you restart the pump, it's a new transaction!
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2009 12:14:16 AM
Gas boycotts do not work!
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tanya24
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2009 11:57:54 PM
i think the boycotts are ridiculous and are not going to help. during the depression ppl weren't complaining and sucked it up, being more conservative when it came to spending and consumption in general to support their country. lighten up! this too shall pass.
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MrX8503
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Message Posted: May 30, 2009 6:25:35 PM
How do you expect a boycott such as not buying gas to work if you're still driving the same amount of miles?
You may not be purchasing the product, but you are still consuming the same amount. Its so much easier to say "Oh I won't buy gas" than to say "I think I'll stay home today"
Its not about buying less, its about consuming less. This is why every boycott will never ever work and gas will continue to rise as you waste your time boycotting.
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ricebike
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Message Posted: May 18, 2009 8:50:13 AM
find the link/s to proved that it worked in the US...
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TommyR
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Message Posted: May 18, 2009 6:43:11 AM
Indeed. The nay sayers and sheep have been brainwashed by Big Oil & their alleged experts to think targeting one or two brands won't work. There was a time when the experts thought the world was flat too.
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ozarkmtn
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Message Posted: May 17, 2009 10:33:09 PM
Then change the name of this forum
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ricebike
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2009 8:51:50 AM
bump
to keep the others informed that this whole section of boycott forums are just a waste of time
except to add to your points score for posting, that is...
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gas1018
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2009 11:22:17 AM
I think you are right!
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SW_99
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2009 8:11:13 AM
There ya go
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Cad8
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2009 11:18:23 AM
I agree trying to boycott is a waste of time
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spyder3m
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2009 9:44:41 AM
just one day nobody would purchase gas they would feel it
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ripmyeyesout
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2009 12:18:31 AM
Boycotts are a great ideal, but even if no one purchased gas for an entire day, oil company's would respond by raising prices. KNowing that everyone who did not purchase gas the prior day would have to get fuel the next day.
Great ideal, but would back fire on the consumers.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2009 5:21:30 PM
Driving a vehicle with better gas mileage is not boycotting.
Driving less and combining trips is not boycotting.
Taking public transportation when practical is not boycotting.
Those actions are conserving, whether it is to conserve personal money, or to conserve fuel, or both.
Not driving because you are one of the hundreds of thousands losing jobs is also not boycotting, it is an attempt to stave off bankruptcy.
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phoneman
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2009 1:39:39 PM
languageman1, you silver tounged devil... there is a minor problem with your plan. The problem is that Exxon/Mobil is one of the LEADERS in alternative energy. BP is another. Write Exxon/Mobil, request a copy of the stockholders report, and you can read for yourself just how much money is being spent on research. I (as a stockholder) am a little upset on just how much money is spent! Profits are at historical highs, but dividends are NOT. In fact, the dividend on Exxon/Mobil is less than P&G stock. In other words, Exxon/Mobil stock is not a good buy!
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Jay4Runner
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2009 1:14:34 PM
Boycotting gas is not the same as small target boycotts. Not enough people could coordinate an effort significant enough to make any difference. If all the people out here put as much energy into their educations as they seem to do worrying about the cost of fuel we could probably find the cures for several diseases and follow our personal budgets closely.
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LanguageMan1
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Message Posted: May 28, 2008 7:39:50 AM
Oh but the boycott is working this time. See, it's not just one person, it's many. And it's not just not going to Exxon/Mobil or Shell, but not driving as much, using public transportation, walking, use vehicles with better fuel efficiency, bike, car pool, etc. And write letters to Congress, big oil and the auto companies and tell them you want vehicles that get better fuel efficiency now, not in 10 or 20 years, plus more domestic drilling for oil, more development of alternative energy resources including making oil, gas and diesel out of coal. And don't go to an Exxon/Mobil or a Shell until you hear about changes that they're going to begin putting more or their money into the development of alternative energy resources. And, it appears that change will take place!
Boycotts do work people! And this one is different from the rest of the one day boycotts!
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Tazpappy
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Message Posted: May 26, 2008 12:25:25 PM
Start out one day a month.
Then two days. If you don't need to work.
Stay home. Think of the stores, Shoot think of the turnpikes.
Just one day ....if you don't "Need to" stay home, spent with the family.
You may even get to like it.
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CLos33
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Message Posted: May 21, 2008 2:14:41 PM
I'm working from home 3 days a week and it's helping.
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theTower
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Message Posted: May 20, 2008 5:25:02 PM
"We should have another day where no one will buy gas for that day."
When did this happen before?
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Mind_Freak
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Message Posted: May 20, 2008 5:08:20 PM
We should have another day where no one will buy gas for that day. Joshua
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china211
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Message Posted: May 20, 2008 8:52:01 AM
The only way a boycott of gas would real affect the gas prices is we didn't fill up with gas for a whole month or two. To show the gas companies that we can do with out gas. But we would all have to do this. Which would mean finding other ways to get to work. Like a bike or maybe a horse.
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91Firebird
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Message Posted: May 19, 2008 8:14:53 AM
rated 5
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