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rumbleseat

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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2009 7:30:34 PM

Recent comments on a Canadian boycott site (boycottgas.ca) are 3 in number, the latest is dated June 24, 2008.
June 15, 2008, this site decided the monthly rotating boycotts they were trying were so wonderfully successful, they stopped calling for them. Since then they have been boycotting only Esso. I don't think anybody has noticed. I only know because I peeked at their website.

Gasmizer is on another website, and this one doesn't have a comments page. At least one of the old ones did, but the participation was just as furious, a post ever few months or so.

There is also have a FaceBook page on getting gas back to $1.30 a gallon. The last post was June 30, 2008.

I have been trying to check up on angryatthepump.org, the website seems to have been so active it is defunct.

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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2009 1:08:57 AM

Wow, 7 years, and my ignore list is now up to 2 people already! That is 2 whole GasBuddies whose existence no longer is of concern to me. It used to be 4, but being permanently banned, and/or just leaving GasBuddy, 3 of those I ignored in the past are just plain gone.

And I won't even know how long it takes for another insult, and another post with no substance, from the newly ignored GBer, to appear. I would bet the farm one will be posted, though.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 11/8/2009 1:13:12 AM EST]
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2009 1:06:54 AM

And once again, a personal insult from BCERB, who can't stay away. That is typical, who needs facts, links, figures, quotes, or anything meaningful when an insult can do.

I am really, really tired of having a mental battle with an unarmed opponent.

So I am going to do everybody a favour BCERB. Say what you want, I don't give a crap because you haven't uttered anything new in a single post you have made. I am going to boycott YOU, since you obviously don't have the testicular fortitude to boycott me. In other words, I am going to be the one who ends of proving at least one boycott can work. You had your chance, you blew it.
You had your chance to prove I was stalking you as you claime, you didn't even bother to try, because you couldn't. You had your chance to prove I was personally attacking you, and you responded with a personal insult.

So, sayonara to you.
Perhaps now I will be able to have an intelligent conversation with an adult member of the site.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2009 1:27:49 AM

I challenge you BCERB to justify your charge that I am personally attacking you while I state fact based on observation.
Put up or shut up!
You have follwed me here, I challenge you to justify your charge that I have stalked you.
Put up or shut up!

And you make yourself look more childish with every re-post of the same tired mantra. You have never, once, replied with a single fact, a single analysis, a single web link, only accusations, name-calling, and kindergarten "I know you are, but what am I" type of rhetoric.
I don't have to attack you on that, you do a good enough job on that yourself, over and over. Prove me wrong on that, if you can.
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2009 9:03:13 PM

So laughably predictable its no longer even remotely surprising!
Just more personal attacks - more of your verbose hot air mantra!
With an unrelated link or two inserted for good measure afterwards.
Still no facts!
Except the fact that boycotts are never a waste of time - but starting new threads to argue that they are sure is!
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2009 4:23:17 AM

Here is some reading on why boycott groups end up folding, and why the organizers lose interest.

Gasoline Explained - Factors Affecting Gasoline Prices

The U.S. Economy

Another word on the "success" of boycottas.ca. They list the media coverage, which is a pretty good idea of how well such an organization is doing. The last media mention was May 20, 2008, then all interest dried up.

Organizers will continue to suffer in the fan department, in part because of a new trend, the "carrotmob". We have been saying for some time our goal is to shop smart, to make an effort to pay the lowest prices possible. Carrotmobbing can be used to reward merchants. It started out as a reward system for merchants working to conserve energy and slow the destruction of the environment.

How Organized Consumer Purchasing Can Change Business

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 11/5/2009 4:32:21 AM EST]
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2009 3:58:30 AM

BCERB, you have no idea what a personal attack is. You have no problem calling people names, making stupid insinuations about them, putting labels on them, but when people spit back you accuse them of personal attacks.

And this thread isn't about boycotts being a waste of time. How many times do I have to say you don't understand this thread? It is about the relative success of called boycotts and the people and organizations that have backed them or tried to start them. NOT the same thing.

It is YOU who has been trying to turn it into a boycott thread, which it isn't. And even if you were allowed to succeed in turning it into a boycott thread, and in trying to bully me, it is still YOU who followed me here after I walked away from you in other threads.
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2009 1:50:52 AM

Wow - that was a long raging off topic rant!
Containing even more personal attacks & verbose hot air!
So predictable its no longer any surprise!
Still No facts - no proof
Except that boycotts are never a waste of time - but starting new threads to argue that they are sure is!

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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:43:05 AM

BCERB says: "Still no facts.
Still no proof."
I agree, BCERB, you have never bothered to post proof of anything you have said in a single thread, even when you managed to stay awake long enough to stay on the subject at hand. Thanks for the admission, I appreciate that.

BCERB says: "Still just desperate manic repetitive postulation of presumptions along with the same old pathological rants!
Keep it up with the overtly dramatic pointless & factless assumed allegations"
Well you didn't really need to confirm that, I have been saying that about you all along, but thanks anyway for the validation, I appreciate that.

BCERB says: "We both know who the unacknowledged sycophantic stalker is following us around & of course you by your own acknowledgment & citations."
What planet are you posting from? Have you forgotten who started this thread? (Hint - look at the name on the first post.)
Have you forgotten who followed who to this thread and IMMEDIATELY tried to change the subject? (Hint - look at Oct 25, 2009 7:02 PM to see the post inserted by BCERB.)

Now I don't know what kind of dictionary you have propping up the missing leg on your couch, but it seems to a forum "stalker" is not, by definition, the first to post in a thread. If I had called you, or anybody else out, in that first post, you might have a point, but I purposely avoided doing that. You, on the other hand, have once again made it personal, and still have yet to post a single figure, market study, economic study, link to factual information or anything else to either support your position (which of course has nothing to do with the subject at hand), or refute any information I have posted in this thread (which you still obviously have made no attempt to understand).
Too bad your attempts at attacking the subject of the thread are being made with an empty popgun pointed at the wrong target.

Now I again offer you the chance to boycott me, immediately. If you could do that, you would have proof that at least one boycott works, and I would be forced to admit it. My money is on you not being able to do that.

I join MARIOWERX in congratulating you on your new blue car.



[Edited by: rumbleseat at 11/4/2009 8:48:02 AM EST]
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 1:49:26 AM


No problem exists except in selective ephemeral imagination!
You wish only sycophants will comment!
Welcome to reality 101!
Still no facts.
Still no proof.
Still just desperate manic repetitive postulation of presumptions along with the same old pathological rants!
Keep it up with the overtly dramatic pointless & factless assumed allegations.
Thats all you ever have - certainly no realistic facts!

We both know who the unacknowledged sycophantic stalker is following us around & of course you by your own acknowledgment & citations.

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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 12:26:43 AM

BCERB, what is your problem? You absolutely refuse to even get near the subject of this thread, but you have this virulent compulsion to natter nonsense at me!
You have posted nothing of substance, no refutations, just childish comments, and the same tired mantra. I reallyh don't care if you like me, but your odious fixation on having the last word without having a conversation makes me wonder if you ever graduated school. You sure wouldn't have made it with that attitude in my grade school, junior high, high school, college, or the adult education I took to earn my professional licence.
I don't care about the disagreement, you are entitled to opinion, but if you can't justify it with actual discussion about any facts and figures you have never been able to produce, you just look more childish with your repeated bleatings.
And you are looking more and more like a forum stalker.

Do everybody a favour and boycott me.
I would love to see you succeed at it, and I wouldn't even ask for proof.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 11/4/2009 12:28:10 AM EST]
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2009 10:07:26 PM

Is BCERB talking about himself in the third person. If he is I totally agree with him. This time he rocks with the big words and his silver tongued posts.
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2009 9:23:01 PM

-Rumor has it - about says it all!
Rumors.
No facts.
No proof.
Just desperate manic postulation of presumptions along with pathological rants!
Keep it up with the overtly dramatic & pointless false allegations.
Thats all you ever have - certainly no facts!
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2009 4:38:37 PM

I have been trying to figure out for many months how links that prove boycotts don't/can't work actually prove they do. I have been trying to figure out for many months how my posting of links, facts, discussions, economic analyses, etc on the futility of gasoline boycotts actually proves they are successful. I am now trying to figure out how my posting of information on the lack of interest in any organization of boycotts, in many cases to the point the groups just disappear into the wind, somehow proves how successful the groups are.

It is patently obvious the contradictions exist in the mind of a stalker with one mantra, as well as a bullying attitude, a stalker that has ignored every single request for meaningful discussion, as well as ignoring every every single request made in the other threads he has bullied people out of, to provide proof, links, figures, or any other supports for his argument, merely repeating the same words, the same well-worn, tired mantra, over, and over. I have asked nicely, I have expressed a willingness to read any proofs, to go to any site he links to, and read with an open mind. Nothing, not a link, not a proof, no figures, nothing, just repeats of the mantra.
I repeat something I have said before, the stalker doesn't like this thread because he can't understand it, and that explains the pathological need to keep returning in an attempt to turn it into a boycott thread, instead of a boycott organizer thread. I even offered to allow the thread to die naturally, but up pops that need to have the last word and turn it into a different subject.
I give him credit for one thing - he sticks to it, right or wrong, just like the people who said the Titanic was unsinkable.
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2009 5:58:12 AM

A link that is not 'obscure'.
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2009 1:36:47 AM

A few obscure links prove nothing except that boycotts are never a waste of time - but starting new threads to argue that they are sure is!Keep it up with the overtly dramatic & pointless false allegations
- thats all you ever have.

Certainly no facts!
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2009 11:33:02 PM

July 25th, 2008
An occasional gasoline “boycott”?

The Global Community Communications Alliance has proposed a global gas boycott on the 5th day of every month. That strategy is promoted in a post at EcoSpace (ecospace.cc).

The post suggests that by not purchasing gasoline on the 5th day of each month people can “proclaim their independence”–”until gas prices are brought down significantly.” Someone is quoted saying: “Support humanity and help bring down high food costs. Send a message to big oil. Cease using and buying gasoline on the 5th day of every month until we decide, as the people, the fair price to pay for gasoline.” (And those messages are linked to a supposed “spiritual revolution,” which has been deemed “Spiritualution”–a word that is trademarked, which the author(s) of the post point(s) out.)

Because the post is on EcoSpace, it implies that this occasional gas “boycott” is a form of environmental activism.

I went to the post. Ha ha, it garnered so much support it is dead. EcoSpace (ecospace.cc) garnered so much support it is dead.

Global Community Communications Alliance (GCCA), formerly the Aquarian Concepts Community, is a church and religious organization originally founded in 1989 in Prescott, Arizona by Anthony J. Delevin who writes that in previous times his soul was in the Apostle Peter, St. Francis of Assisi, King Arthur, Martin Luther, Alexander the Great, and George Washington, among others. Read all about it here. Can't find any boycott information, guess they lost interest.
Global Community Communication Alliance
A Divine Administration
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2009 11:19:49 PM

Somebody couldn't even make it a week without returning to spout some insults, but absolutely nothing related to the topic, thereby keeping it alive.
Having proved a point, I was content to let the thread die. I even gave somebody the other threads to post crap in, totally unchallenged, for the simple reason it was impossible to actually have a discussion.
Unable to prove a point, somebody is playing the childish bully game, again, not content with the threads already taken over.
I just can't believe somebody doesn't see a dead link to a boycott organization site as proof of the lack of interest and support for boycotts. Maybe another thread on English comprehension is in order.
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2009 6:02:24 PM

Keep the false allegations coming!
Thats all you ever have!
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2009 6:00:25 PM

Wanna see a presumptuous stalker & bully - look no further than your mirror.
Cant even keep on topic & thats the best you can come up with!
Dont forget to post a few more dead links that serve to prove nothing afterwards!
Lol!
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2009 8:59:05 PM

Time to dress up as Sasquatch or a successful boycott organizer.
I know what the mythical Sasquatch is rumored to look like.
But am unsure about the Successful boycott organizer. I have seen very few overtly vocal wannabees but never a successful one.
Just kidding have a hoot.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2009 2:49:52 AM

To be expected when a stalker has followed me, and then mired himself in a topic he neither likes, nor understands, while trying to bully others into accepting his attempts to turn it into another topic.
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2009 9:30:10 PM

Lol!
Drama drama drama!
Youre still lacking in facts- just all drama all the time!
Try taking a day off & get some fresh air - might lead to fresh ideas that are factual in nature instead of the same old boring 1/2 truths & desperate personal attacks because you have nothing!

Nix the stale drama -
or dont!
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2009 12:51:59 AM

Maybe BCERB takes it personally and his only recourse his repeated factless assertions. With his anonymous posts from Victoria he may feel threatened and confused. Please BCERB stand up for yourself and give us a fact, some proof that you are committed to your stance and that it is viable, whatever it is.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2009 11:49:10 PM

And the stalker returns with the same bullying mantra and the same lack of information to add to a thread that isn't about boycotts anyway. It is about the relative success of organizers and organizations. But then I have never questioned BCERB's ability to stick to a subject, have I?

Nor have I any doubt about his inability to add facts backed by articles, economic analysis or real-world data to the boycot threads, which he is bound and determined to turn this one into as well.
I am really tired of you trying to bulldoze me and tell me to shut up, and I point out, one more time, this is not a boycott thread, and you are the one who is stalking me, you are the one who is determined to take over this thread and turn it into something else, you are the one trying to bully me into going away, you are the one who made a special effort to come to this thread in the first place to try to muffle me.

You don't like this thread, and I don't give a rat's patootie about that BCERB, but you are keeping it alive by trying to get the last word in and claim some kind of "victory".
Your turn, FactLess, er, I mean, BCERB.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 10/25/2009 11:53:05 PM EST]
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2009 8:02:03 PM

Lol!
Like I said: propogate all the assumtions you wish
still factless!
Your links prove nothing except that boycotts are never a waste of time - but starting new threads to argue that they are sure is!

Try taking a day off & get some fresh air - might lead to fresh ideas.
Nix the stale drama!
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2009 7:14:35 AM

May 7, 2007, dailyfueleconomytip.com publishes an appeal to forwarders of e-mail spam to stop sending them to the site, they were flooding all their e-mail accounts.
Stop Sending Those “Don’t Buy Gas” Emails
"For those of you who continually forward these emails to everyone on your contact list, please stop. This is one of the most ridiculous ideas out there and it would never work."
So it seems the boycott spammers did succeed in one thing, and that is temporarily making the e-mail service to a site dedicated to helping consumers maximize their fuel dollars a PITA to try to use.

(In May 2007, only 2.4% of fuel stations were actually owned by BigOil, according to the National Association of Convenience Stores.)

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 10/23/2009 7:21:00 AM EST]
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2009 7:10:32 AM

Buying fuel on-line? You followed me to this thread to throw garbage like that?
And there you go again with your crap about Canadian websites, but you totally disregard my mention of a defuct US based website.

You never responded to my polite requests for links and/or data in the threads you, TommyR, and GasterBC bulldozed through, and now you are trying to do the same thing to this thread.

As MARIOWERX stated quite eloquently, you are "Factless again".
At least I have made an attempt to stick to the subject I started the thread with.
Please, if you are going to blather ceaselessly about the topic you are trying ineffectually to turn this one into, come up with some new lines, the ones you are using, always unsupported by data, have become little more than repetitive noise.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2009 10:05:07 PM

Poor BCERB "Factless again!"
At least he is consistent with his "Who cares" and "Factless again" responses to a Boycott of any consequence.
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2009 9:47:40 PM

Lol!
Boycotts work in real life - you just dont want anyone to believe it.

Tell me - do you purchase fuel for your car online too?
Makes about as much sense!

I simply replied to your topic which you keep bumping to the top of the list - you on the other hand did a search on my name to deduce how many threads I have started & then propagated assumptions.
Factless again!
So to answered your question- guess that makes you the stalker now doesnt it!

So what if people dont respond on a few Canadian websites or 1 other you listed or may return to list.
Like I said -who cares - proves nothing!

Cite all you like!
Such references prove nothing - only that boycotts are never a waste of time - but starting new threads to argue that they are sure is!
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2009 1:33:16 AM

If I find more information to contribute on failed or ignored gas boycott campaigns or groups, I shall return to post.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 10/22/2009 1:33:37 AM EST]
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2009 1:32:13 AM

Who is stalking who BCERB? You are the one that couldn't leave well enough alone when I left the other threads, and had stalk me to post here and try to insert your bluster into another thread and bully me.
It is painfully obvious you don't even know what this thread is about, and that is why you are attempting to change the subject and turn it into your own. You have been part of taking over enough.
As MARIOWERX points out, you said, and I quote "Who cares!" Guess what, you do or you wouldn't be taking such a personal interest in this thread!

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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2009 1:12:06 AM

Finally glad to see BCERB agrees about boycotts .
In his own words he responds to the topic ..."Who cares !"
Maybe he finally checked some facts.
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2009 12:40:37 AM

Who cares!
Never said angryatthepump wasn't Canadian!
As to your cyberstalking assumptions - it only appears that I answered my own thread!
Thats because a jerk was banned & had his posts removed for repeatedly making comments similar to: please check your facts before you open your yap.

You on the otherhand bump your own threads & thats a fact.
Pretty sad when you have to reply to your own posts to draw any attention!

Thanks for repeatedly proving my points that citing such references prove nothing & that boycotts are never a waste of time - but arguing that they are sure is!
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2009 12:26:38 AM

Only for self gratification does not seem to be nation wide interest in north america to support a boycott of any consequence
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2009 12:04:11 AM

May 21, 2008, a boycott was suggested of ALL gas stations in Sebring, Florida. The instigator was Jesse Sours. The article on Tampa Bay Online attracted all of 3 responses, all on the same day, May 21, 2008. Pretty exciting, 3 responses!
Mind you he made himself look silly by saying the refineries were tainting their gas with something to make it "burn up" faster. Not the sharpest blade in the tool box!

By the way BCERB, I shouldn't have to point this out, but I am going to anyway. You started all of 6 threads. You responded to yourself in 3 of them. So I responded to myself in this one, what's the problem?

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 10/22/2009 12:08:09 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2009 11:45:41 PM

ricebike, the same people that aren't chiming in on this thread are the same people that aren't joining boycott organizations any more, and the same people that don't even bother visiting the websites of the boycott organizers, the same people that cared so little about angryatthepump.org that it no longer exists.

angryatthepump wasn't Canadian BCERB, it was American, please check your facts before you open your yap.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2009 11:08:28 AM

Lol!
Boycotts work in real life - you just dont want anyone to believe it.
So what if people dont respond on a few Canadian websites
Who cares - proves nothing!
Pretty sad when you have to reply to your own posts to draw any attention!
Thanks for proving my points yet again that citing such references prove nothing & that boycotts are never a waste of time - but arguing that they are sure is!

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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2009 7:21:39 AM

Canada? What did you expect?
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2009 6:51:29 AM

no one else chiming in on this?

well that proves it; thanks rumbleseat
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2009 4:03:20 AM

The Great Canadian Boycott has disabled the visitor counter on the website. No indication how long ago it was done.

The Boycott Stations page on the same site has also disabled the visitor counter on the website.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2009 3:53:07 AM

Checked out boycottCanada, so successful the website appears to be down.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2009 3:52:25 AM

This is the position of the CAA. CAA is not in any way affiliated with any oil company, or gasoline retailer, other than the CAA points programme with Husky/Mohawk.

"The CAA does not endorse or encourage boycotts because they have not proved to be effective and do not target individuals who have an ability to affect gasoline pricing. Over the years, a number of people have organized boycott efforts against selected oil companies. Such actions penalize station owners and staff – not the oil company itself."

However, they do have common sense advice on getting the most for your fuel dollar.
What Consumers Can Do

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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2009 1:31:52 AM

I don't believe the boycott's have been successful, and never will be.
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