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antiguzzle Sophomore Author Wichita Posts:237 Points:20,545 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 3, 2012 10:51:55 PM Ignore antiguzzle Report Abuse Is it just me or does anybody else feel a little bit special when you fill your car with pure, alcohol-free, gasoline? I could compare it to the feeling of having just taken your car through the car wash or changed the oil. You know your engine is going to run as smooth as it possibly can, you will enjoy the best fuel economy you possible can, and nothing is going to be drying out, corroding, or otherwise malfunctioning since you are using good 'ol natural gasoline. I apologize to those that don't have a choice as to what kind of gas they put in their cars. This thread was not intended to tease. I suggest going to your favorite station and ask if they would be willing to replace one of their ethanol choices for pure gasoline. I know I have thanked my local attendant several times now. I know there isn't much profit on the retail end of automobile fuel, stations hope the traffic will generate sales of snacks and such inside the store. If you are the only station in your area with pure gasoline, I would think you will have a nice advantage over your local ethanol competitors. I know the fuel station that I frequent sells ONLY pure gasonline in low, mid, and high "grade". They told me they have a fuel truck visit their store as many as three times a week. I'm thinking the customers are voting with their dollars and are choosing pure gasoline in a big way. If you don't have a pure gasoline outlet in your area, have your local station call the Conoco/Phillips in Wichita and ask them how their sales are doing. It might be a very convincing call. [Edited by: antiguzzle at 4/3/2012 11:00:19 PM EST]

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Is it just me or does anybody else feel a little bit special when you fill your car with pure, alcohol-free, gasoline? I could compare it to the feeling of having just taken your car through the car wash or changed the oil.

You know your engine is going to run as smooth as it possibly can, you will enjoy the best fuel economy you possible can, and nothing is going to be drying out, corroding, or otherwise malfunctioning since you are using good 'ol natural gasoline.

I apologize to those that don't have a choice as to what kind of gas they put in their cars. This thread was not intended to tease. I suggest going to your favorite station and ask if they would be willing to replace one of their ethanol choices for pure gasoline. I know I have thanked my local attendant several times now.

I know there isn't much profit on the retail end of automobile fuel, stations hope the traffic will generate sales of snacks and such inside the store. If you are the only station in your area with pure gasoline, I would think you will have a nice advantage over your local ethanol competitors.

I know the fuel station that I frequent sells ONLY pure gasonline in low, mid, and high "grade". They told me they have a fuel truck visit their store as many as three times a week. I'm thinking the customers are voting with their dollars and are choosing pure gasoline in a big way. If you don't have a pure gasoline outlet in your area, have your local station call the Conoco/Phillips in Wichita and ask them how their sales are doing.
It might be a very convincing call.

[Edited by: antiguzzle at 4/3/2012 11:00:19 PM EST]

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jodybull All-Star Author El Paso Posts:767 Points:140,880 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 1:40:30 PM Ignore jodybull Report Abuse Six months of the year, we are forced in El Paso to buy fuels that are not pure for one reason or another. I'm always happy when I'm out of town and find fuel that is unadulterated, and my truck smiles too!
vikings80 All-Star Author South Dakota Posts:781 Points:110,065 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 8, 2012 4:13:25 PM Ignore vikings80 Report Abuse no
antiguzzle Sophomore Author Wichita Posts:237 Points:20,545 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jun 1, 2012 4:53:42 PM Ignore antiguzzle Report Abuse buzz
reb4 Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,100 Points:1,821,150 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: May 17, 2012 1:02:43 PM Ignore reb4 Report Abuse antiguzzle, i accept your apology... for in illinois, and specifically the chicago area, we have limited choice for ethanol free. Some people complain about not enough options for ethanol here, but it would be nice to have an option to obtain e0 or not require it to the consumers. I made conscious choice to aquire a vehicle that gets good mileage. It also is a vehicle that uses very little oil which some people indicate is important to them and is why they use ethanol. But then you find out that they ride around in SUV's and Performace vehicles... and tout that they switch between e85 and e10 though mpg difference is negligible in their ffv...
SilverStreaker Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:11,934 Points:2,215,565 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: May 17, 2012 10:15:23 AM Ignore SilverStreaker Report Abuse According to an Irving Oil Refining No Ethanol Gasoline MSDS, your "pure gas" is a mixture of many compounds, including: Toluene: Toluene (benzene, methyl-) has caused fetotoxicity (reduced fetal weight), behavioural effects (effects on learning and memory) and hearing loss (in males). Xylene: chronic toxicant. N-Hexane: chronic toxicant. Benzene: Carcinogen; Extraordinarily hazardous. Enjoy your "buzz" - while you can.
fumes333 Rookie Author Providence Posts:20 Points:10,750 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 1:45:07 PM Ignore fumes333 Report Abuse no, but i do after 2 beers
mr157ifhz Sophomore Author Gasbuddy Posts:155 Points:3,120 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 11:40:49 AM Ignore mr157ifhz Report Abuse antiguzzle, I notice you wrote 'ETHANOL FREE gasoline' in your last post. Maybe you actually realized how ridiculous it is to be calling gasoline 'pure' or 'natural'? Could it be? -Matt [Edited by: mr157ifhz at 4/6/2012 11:41:14 AM EST]
antiguzzle Sophomore Author Wichita Posts:237 Points:20,545 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 8:47:22 PM Ignore antiguzzle Report Abuse "It isn't really a buzz, it is the sound of money staying in your wallet because your MPG just improved." "It makes me feel great cause I know my truck gets much better fuel mileage with it!" All good points. I also get a slight buzz every time I use my Discover More card to fill up with ETHANOL FREE gasoline as I get 5% cash back!
timmyC4 Veteran Author Twin Cities Posts:417 Points:60,600 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 3:50:33 PM Ignore timmyC4 Report Abuse It might be your cell phone.
tattoo666TX Champion Author Texas Posts:2,567 Points:344,480 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 11:54:20 AM Ignore tattoo666TX Report Abuse It makes me feel great cause I know my truck gets much better fuel mileage with it!
Edpap Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:4,324 Points:505,950 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 9:34:41 AM Ignore Edpap Report Abuse It isn't really a buzz, it is the sound of money staying in your wallet because your MPG just improved.
Shockjock1961 Champion Author Illinois Posts:20,113 Points:2,184,185 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 9:23:02 AM Ignore Shockjock1961 Report Abuse "Geez shockjock, is that your best argument, 'I know what you are but what am I?" LOL! That's your take on it? LOL!!! Just demonstrating the parallels between ethanol and gasoline. If that's your childish interpretation, so be it... "think you will find that some things (like 'distilling' gasoline) are really easy to put in a book - not so easy to actually do" Only because when you are distilling petroleum you are trying to pull out a couple of dozen different products simultaneously, each with it's own boiling point, otherwise it's the exact same process used to extract ethanol from mash...
mr157ifhz Sophomore Author Gasbuddy Posts:155 Points:3,120 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 7:41:17 AM Ignore mr157ifhz Report Abuse Geez shockjock, is that your best argument, 'I know what you are but what am I?' ? Hey, I've read a book or two. Good stuff to be found in books. Lots of fiction, too. I tend to put into practice what I learn, maybe you should try? I think you will find that some things (like 'distilling' gasoline) are really easy to put in a book - not so easy to actually do. But by all means, if it's as easy as you think it is, go for it! Saying that getting gasoline from oil is the exact same process as ethanol from corn is an extremely simplistic view. I mean, you REALLY have to stretch for that one. Kind of like saying the F22 is exactly the same as the Wright Flyer. Maybe in your world..... -Matt [Edited by: mr157ifhz at 4/5/2012 7:43:31 AM EST]
SilverStreaker Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:11,934 Points:2,215,565 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 6:47:58 PM Ignore SilverStreaker Report Abuse mr157ifhz says to Shockjock1961 "Being that it's so easy to 'distill' gasoline (after all, it's just the same process as making ethanol didn't you say?), then why don't you just go ahead and make your own?????" Based on the knowledge of science he has shown on this website, I don't think I'd trust him to make a mini volcano.
Shockjock1961 Champion Author Illinois Posts:20,113 Points:2,184,185 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 6:18:53 PM Ignore Shockjock1961 Report Abuse "Well shockjock, you go right ahead and put crude oil directly into your gas tank, see what happens" Well, mr157ifhz, you go ahead and put corn in your gas tank and see what happens... That's what's coming out of the ground, not ethanol... "Ethanol on the other hand -after distillation as you pointed out- (a super easy process that ANYBODY, even you, can do) is ready to go" I guess you missed the point that that's all gasoline is, a distillation process... "Now I have a question for you. Being that it's so easy to 'distill' gasoline (after all, it's just the same process as making ethanol didn't you say?), then why don't you just go ahead and make your own????? " It's exactly the same as distilling ethanol, the only difference being that you get a much larger list of distillate products out of petroleum as compared to corn mash. Read a book, you might learn something... [Edited by: Shockjock1961 at 4/4/2012 6:23:06 PM EST]
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:22,924 Points:3,529,415 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 6:12:36 PM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse antiguzzle, if your mission is to look a fool with an agenda, and at the same time ignore the prime objective of this website, you are succeeding in spades. Oh, and that buzz? It's from breathing the fumes! [Edited by: rumbleseat at 4/4/2012 6:15:45 PM EST]
mr157ifhz Sophomore Author Gasbuddy Posts:155 Points:3,120 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 5:52:29 PM Ignore mr157ifhz Report Abuse Well shockjock, you go right ahead and put crude oil directly into your gas tank, see what happens. THAT is what comes from the ground, NOT gasoline! You seem to keep forgetting that. Ethanol on the other hand -after distillation as you pointed out- (a super easy process that ANYBODY, even you, can do) is ready to go. Now I have a question for you. Being that it's so easy to 'distill' gasoline (after all, it's just the same process as making ethanol didn't you say?), then why don't you just go ahead and make your own????? -Matt
SilverStreaker Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:11,934 Points:2,215,565 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 5:11:41 PM Ignore SilverStreaker Report Abuse Spin away, spinmaster!
Shockjock1961 Champion Author Illinois Posts:20,113 Points:2,184,185 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 5:05:49 PM Ignore Shockjock1961 Report Abuse How do you separate gasoline from the other products found in Petroleum? Distillation... "The different chain lengths have progressively higher boiling points, so they can be separated out by distillation. This is what happens in an oil refinery -- crude oil is heated and the different chains are pulled out by their vaporization temperatures." How do you separate ethanol from the other products found in mash? Distillation... "Once your ethanol has fermented, you will have a mixture that is a combination of ethanol and its byproduct, water. Since you can't burn water in an engine, you will need to remove it through a process called distillation" There you go. No difference... Well, almost no difference. Petroleum is created by nature, whereas mash is created by man, at least, that is, on a scale where it becomes useful as a fuel source... [Edited by: Shockjock1961 at 4/4/2012 5:08:00 PM EST]
Shockjock1961 Champion Author Illinois Posts:20,113 Points:2,184,185 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 4:57:56 PM Ignore Shockjock1961 Report Abuse "Even you, shockjock, can make and easily seperate a useful quantity of ethanol" You do realize that gasoline comes about by distilling petroleum, the smae method you use to extract ethanol from mash... Then again, maybe you don't...
Shockjock1961 Champion Author Illinois Posts:20,113 Points:2,184,185 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 4:56:34 PM Ignore Shockjock1961 Report Abuse "shockjock, so I guess then you think gasoline sits around in big pools waiting to be pumped?" Nope, but petroleum does... You distill gasoline from petroleum, much like you have to distill ethanol from mash... "Ethanol on the other hand, occurs completely naturally, without any intervention from man" Not in a form that can be used as fuel, that takes intervention... "To get it for use, you seperate it from the non-ethanol stuff" Just like you separate gasoline from the non-gasoline portion of petroleum. There is no difference. Even the method of extraction is the same... Distillation...
RacerGene Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,703 Points:366,225 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 4:50:48 PM Ignore RacerGene Report Abuse no
mr157ifhz Sophomore Author Gasbuddy Posts:155 Points:3,120 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 1:10:37 PM Ignore mr157ifhz Report Abuse shockjock, so I guess then you think gasoline sits around in big pools waiting to be pumped? Gasoline does not occur naturally....EVER. Oil is naturally occurring yes (over millions of years and high pressure), but crude oil is a LONG way away from being gasoline. Ethanol on the other hand, occurs completely naturally, without any intervention from man. To get it for use, you seperate it from the non-ethanol stuff - hardly the complicated, intensive, destructive process required to make gasoline from crude. Even in the big ethanol plants, it is still a natural process, just on a larger and more controlled scale. Even you, shockjock, can make and easily seperate a useful quantity of ethanol You are a teacher? Oh boy....... judging from some of your comments you must be special too. -Matt
krzysiek_ck Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,322 Points:728,160 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 12:40:40 PM Ignore krzysiek_ck Report Abuse Shockjock1961 caught in the spin answers with more spin. What the concept.
Shockjock1961 Champion Author Illinois Posts:20,113 Points:2,184,185 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 12:28:30 PM Ignore Shockjock1961 Report Abuse "I find it hard to believe that an alleged science teacher doesn't know that ethanol fermentation is a naturally occurring phenomenon" So you are claiming that nature provides enough ethanol to be used on a commercial level, without any human intervention? With that criteria, petroleum and therefore gasoline are natural products too, probably more natural then ethanol. After all, petroleum comes from decayed organic matter, and the whole process of petroleum creation is a natural one, that happens WITHOUT human intervention.... I don't see nature providing trillions of gallons of ethanol for us to use just waiting in pools for us to pump it out... [Edited by: Shockjock1961 at 4/4/2012 12:31:12 PM EST]
krzysiek_ck Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,322 Points:728,160 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 11:28:32 AM Ignore krzysiek_ck Report Abuse antiguzzle wrote: "Considering the vast majority of readers of this site do not like ethanol in their gas, I am merely providing a balanced view on the subject for the silent majority." There is a huge difference between a balanced view and spin, half-truth, and lies used by Anti-Ethanol crew.
SilverStreaker Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:11,934 Points:2,215,565 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 11:23:51 AM Ignore SilverStreaker Report Abuse Shockjock1961 says "Last time I checked ethanol had to be manufactured and processed..." I find it hard to believe that an alleged science teacher doesn't know that ethanol fermentation is a naturally occurring phenomenon.
Shockjock1961 Champion Author Illinois Posts:20,113 Points:2,184,185 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 11:10:21 AM Ignore Shockjock1961 Report Abuse "Natural? Pure? You realize gasoline does not occur naturally (unlike ethanol)" LOL!!! Really? So where do you pick your ethanol? Last time I checked ethanol had to be manufactured and processed...
CobraJ All-Star Author Tampa Posts:999 Points:376,205 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 11:07:31 AM Ignore CobraJ Report Abuse I don’t typically feel a buzz when filling my cars with non ethanol gasoline. I’m just happy I have a place I can regularly go to get non ethanol gasoline so that my cars will run good and get the proper MPG they’re supposed to get. Contrary to what one poster said, I haven’t had any fuel system problems (i.e. clogged fuel filters, etc), running non ethanol gasoline and this is before all this ethanol was added a few years ago. I have a 29 year old 1983 Mercedes which I bought brand new and when it was running on 10% ethanol I had to have a fuel line fixed due to a leak. Now that I’ve been putting back non ethanol gasoline, I have not had any issues and the car is running great. So ok. There’s no easy self test kit that can prove that pure gasoline is really pure (minus all the other additives, chemicals, etc.), but one thing’s for sure the ethanol free gasoline I put in my cars is ethanol free because ever since I started using E0 last year, I have noticed the difference in MPG in all three of my cars: 1983 Mercedes: E10 16 MPG avg combined vs E0 20 MPG avg combined today 2005 Mustang GT: E10 22 MPG combined vs E0 25 MPG avg combined today 1997 Corolla: E10 32 MPG avg combined vs E0 36 avg combined today The price per gallon for E0 is a little higher than E10, but I’m never going back to E10 now that I have a non ethanol gasoline supplier I can regularly go to. I found it at pure-gas.org [Edited by: CobraJ at 4/4/2012 11:11:37 AM EST]
antiguzzle Sophomore Author Wichita Posts:237 Points:20,545 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 11:05:29 AM Ignore antiguzzle Report Abuse "antiguzzle, does Big Oil pay you on a per-post or on a per-word or on a per-laugh-induced basis?" Last time I checked, I still don't have as many threads on the front page as the small group of fanatics (two of which are confirmed to be in the ethanol business) that continue to push their agenda. Considering the vast majority of readers of this site do not like ethanol in their gas, I am merely providing a balanced view on the subject for the silent majority. As long as the Ethanol Boys continue to make this forum their own personal advertising billboard - instead of a place to honestly discuss the pros and cons of making fuel out of food - I will play the part of "equal and opposing force".
SilverStreaker Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:11,934 Points:2,215,565 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 10:51:08 AM Ignore SilverStreaker Report Abuse Why would I waste money on non-ethanol gas when I save money every time I blend ethanol in my tank? That buzz that you are getting is from the nasty chemicals in gasoline - the same buzz you get when you sniff solvents.
jacksfan Champion Author Lincoln Posts:2,554 Points:1,237,055 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 10:06:04 AM Ignore jacksfan Report Abuse antiguzzle, does Big Oil pay you on a per-post or on a per-word or on a per-laugh-induced basis?
OceanArcher Champion Author Mississippi Posts:5,703 Points:1,327,400 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 8:45:15 AM Ignore OceanArcher Report Abuse My car gets a buzz - does that count ??
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:22,924 Points:3,529,415 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 8:22:47 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse Wow, you get simple thrills! There is no such thing as pure gas on the market, there are all kinds of poisonous compounds added. And when you put E10 in a car that has many miles on it, and the fuel filter clogs, have you any idea where that crud came from? Gasoline! Ethanol will clean the crud that gasoline leaves in your fuel system? If E10 were so bad, we would have thousands of stranded vehicles, and full repair shops in Manitoba. Guess what? We have no such problems!
goldseeker Champion Author West Virginia Posts:19,537 Points:2,717,840 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 7:51:28 AM Ignore goldseeker Report Abuse There is no such thing as pure gasoline. And there is not a shred of truth in this thread. If you think gasoline is so pure, just try drinking a 1 ounce shot!
mr157ifhz Sophomore Author Gasbuddy Posts:155 Points:3,120 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 7:02:18 AM Ignore mr157ifhz Report Abuse Natural? Pure? You realize gasoline does not occur naturally (unlike ethanol) don't you? And have you ever looked at a list of chemicals that make up gasoline? Do you know this 'recipe' can change from day to day, refinery to refinery? If you don't know, I would suggest you look. At the very least, you would prevent yourself from looking too 'special' when you use words like 'pure' and 'natural' when describing gasoline. Your welcome. -Matt