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Harper Pledges Surpluses, Dion Touts Energy Tax Plan Monday, September 08, 2008
Bloomberg -- Sept. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper started his re-election bid by promising to continue delivering budget surpluses after a record 10 in a row and warning that a ``risky'' opposition plan to tax polluters would undermine an already slowing economy. After Harper, 49, called elections for Oct. 14, Liberal opposition leader Stephane Dion countered that his proposed levy on polluters would be used to spark growth with tax cuts and increased spending. He also pledged to help ailing manufacturing industries that he said Harper's Conservative Party has ignored.
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	Monday, September 08, 2008 Bloomberg -- Sept. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper started his re-election bid by promising to continue delivering budget surpluses after a record 10 in a row and warning that a ``risky'' opposition plan to tax polluters would undermine an already slowing economy. After Harper, 49, called elections for Oct. 14, Liberal opposition leader Stephane Dion countered that his proposed levy on polluters would be used to spark growth with tax cuts and increased spending. He also pledged to help ailing manufacturing industries that he said Harper's Conservative Party has ignored. Visit Bloomberg for full article

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balljars Veteran Author Michigan Posts:444 Points:96,375 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 4:59:52 PM	Ignore balljars Report Abuse
	More taxes, sounds like Obama.
thomas41546 Champion Author Tennessee Posts:1,700 Points:789,690 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 4:23:29 PM	Ignore thomas41546 Report Abuse
	clean air in turn for votes??
2009TDI Veteran Author San Diego Posts:476 Points:88,895 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:51:03 AM	Ignore 2009TDI Report Abuse
	nice to know we aren't the only economically confused country
domer2 All-Star Author Gary Posts:872 Points:379,000 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:45:28 AM	Ignore domer2 Report Abuse
	no winners out of this mess
PokerAce Champion Author Louisiana Posts:1,461 Points:295,405 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:44:10 AM	Ignore PokerAce Report Abuse
	Tax on .... the power to screw things up.....
Dennis783 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:5,603 Points:1,122,945 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:39:52 AM	Ignore Dennis783 Report Abuse
	ok, so????
RAD3 Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,167 Points:940,475 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:38:20 AM	Ignore RAD3 Report Abuse
	The "man with no plan" is touting budget surplus after going on a pre-election spending spree? If you believe him, then I've got some precious land for sale in Florida that you may like!
Gerund1 Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,147 Points:828,105 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:37:38 AM	Ignore Gerund1 Report Abuse
	No, that was Harpo. But there are some similarities. By the way the surplus is mostly on the massive tax revenue from the excessive price of fuel.
GoeveH Veteran Author Toronto Posts:453 Points:671,330 Joined:Jan 2002	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:35:15 AM	Ignore GoeveH Report Abuse
	Harper? Isn't he one of the (now deceased) Marx brothers?
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:9,620 Points:719,110 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:34:20 AM	Ignore tomok Report Abuse
	promises, promises, promises...... don't rely on promises..... Somehow, Tom Cruise has something to do with it....
markmoore80 All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:839 Points:289,265 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:33:54 AM	Ignore markmoore80 Report Abuse
	Politics...
laddyboy62 Champion Author Riverside Posts:1,581 Points:994,335 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:32:40 AM	Ignore laddyboy62 Report Abuse
	yeah...yeah...yeah...same ol'
FawltyPawl All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:724 Points:115,550 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:31:01 AM	Ignore FawltyPawl Report Abuse
	transfer of wealth through subsidy
Don1222 Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,038 Points:119,630 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:29:48 AM	Ignore Don1222 Report Abuse
	To stabilize gasoline prices we need competition. Otherwise we need price control. With utilities the government regulates the rates. If we want to keep the government out of it, we need alternative fuels independent of the oil companies. Lobby congress to actively support alternative energy. The oil companies are lobbying congress to support oil without any regulation. Congress will listen to their constituents. Call, write, or e-mail them. They need to hear from thousands of us daily until they get the message. If they don't listen, vote the incumbents out. Look at the mess this country is in, the incumbents are not doing anything worthwhile anyway. We have nothing to loose.
Cherokee76 Champion Author Gary Posts:4,229 Points:726,580 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:29:35 AM	Ignore Cherokee76 Report Abuse
	good luck
Kthyme Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:2,671 Points:876,390 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:27:39 AM	Ignore Kthyme Report Abuse
	I see more Barbara Streisand here... ;)
prajes88 Veteran Author San Bernardino Posts:372 Points:79,730 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:25:55 AM	Ignore prajes88 Report Abuse
	they have to find means to make it to the top
w4kh Champion Author Riverside Posts:3,660 Points:640,945 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:25:40 AM	Ignore w4kh Report Abuse
	Letting polluters continue without a tax to fund clean up seems counter-indicated
HEBster All-Star Author Kentucky Posts:821 Points:770,880 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:24:12 AM	Ignore HEBster Report Abuse
	Whatever0------
sta135 Champion Author New York Posts:1,933 Points:136,235 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:23:11 AM	Ignore sta135 Report Abuse
	At least they can balance a budget! Wish they'd export the secret. :)
gasie1 Champion Author Maine Posts:2,036 Points:950,685 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:21:08 AM	Ignore gasie1 Report Abuse
	Go Harper, go.
PizzaMon All-Star Author Philadelphia Posts:536 Points:372,150 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:16:33 AM	Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse
	Oh politicians! Ya gotta love em, eh?
MajorSteve All-Star Author Oklahoma City Posts:500 Points:237,595 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:14:51 AM	Ignore MajorSteve Report Abuse
	Politicians are there to promise the moon and deliver what?
soncorn Sophomore Author Missouri Posts:234 Points:153,880 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:13:36 AM	Ignore soncorn Report Abuse
	interesting
acknot All-Star Author Seattle Posts:872 Points:642,575 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:13:12 AM	Ignore acknot Report Abuse
	.........and politicians always speak the truth.........
cudatim All-Star Author San Antonio Posts:738 Points:371,695 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:12:42 AM	Ignore cudatim Report Abuse
	Sounds like another political battle brewing..
kdautobody Veteran Author Pennsylvania Posts:428 Points:61,145 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:09:58 AM	Ignore kdautobody Report Abuse
	If you think its bad now, If mcain gets in it will be even higher. But on the plus side oil companies will be thriving. Hope Canada doesnt close there border, we may all have to move there!
Chazzer Champion Author Nevada Posts:8,086 Points:1,730,660 Joined:May 2002	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:09:49 AM	Ignore Chazzer Report Abuse
	More political rhetoric!
zeljko All-Star Author Greensboro Posts:786 Points:326,150 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:07:06 AM	Ignore zeljko Report Abuse
	is there any other way out????
ArboretumCop Champion Author Richmond Posts:1,267 Points:1,013,060 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:06:12 AM	Ignore ArboretumCop Report Abuse
	A budget surplus beats our dummie Prez, who has destroyed a surplus, created the largest deficit in our history, cut taxes to the wealthy, started a never-ending war that kills and maims Americans, and sighhhhhh, the list goes on and on.
glazarides All-Star Author Akron Posts:556 Points:367,290 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:04:45 AM	Ignore glazarides Report Abuse
	Why can't our U.S. conservative party (Republicans) have a budget surplus? That's all we get from them is a record National Debt that our grand children's grand children won't be able to pay off! The Outstanding Public Debt as of 09 Sep 2008 at 02:03:32 PM GMT is: $9,676,881,960,427.02 The estimated population of the United States is 304,696,184 so each citizen's share of this debt is $31,759.12. The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.93 billion per day since September 28, 2007! http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
eagleeye2008 All-Star Author Wisconsin Posts:511 Points:110,065 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:03:53 AM	Ignore eagleeye2008 Report Abuse
	OF COURSE..... TAXES,,,,,WILL WIN OUT !!,,, THAT'S THE GOVERNMENTS FINAL ANSWER !!!!
10pennypincher Veteran Author St. Louis Posts:431 Points:222,225 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:02:14 AM	Ignore 10pennypincher Report Abuse
	TAX TAX TAX.....we pay too much tax already!!!!
lazycar Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,032 Points:212,140 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 10:00:33 AM	Ignore lazycar Report Abuse
	AH HA, That is why gas is so expensive up north Eh!
RPetty Champion Author Maryland Posts:4,357 Points:975,715 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:58:46 AM	Ignore RPetty Report Abuse
	more tax=less disposable income..
kevski Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,391 Points:197,140 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:57:53 AM	Ignore kevski Report Abuse
	energy tax=more consumer cost
MacGyver_1701 Champion Author Indiana Posts:5,199 Points:1,141,850 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:54:55 AM	Ignore MacGyver_1701 Report Abuse
	We all need more energy taxes. NOT!!!
damone2069 Rookie Author Cleveland Posts:10 Points:1,545 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:52:32 AM	Ignore damone2069 Report Abuse
	WOW!
kanmandoo Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,005 Points:898,260 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:51:23 AM	Ignore kanmandoo Report Abuse
	glad I live here
lleddirj All-Star Author Michigan Posts:965 Points:591,250 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:45:46 AM	Ignore lleddirj Report Abuse
	surpluses? is he on crack?
mattf373 All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:561 Points:106,745 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:43:35 AM	Ignore mattf373 Report Abuse
	it needs to be a worldwide effort!
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,753 Points:504,605 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:41:01 AM	Ignore RochBear Report Abuse
	The Gov't spending the country to prosperity NEVER works. Instead of simply spending the "surplus" on things, they should invest it. Build wind farms, they require a large up front investment, but then continue to pay for decades. It would also stimulate the private sector by only buying wind mills made domestically. (or they could buy US made windmills and give the USA back some of the $ the US sends to Canada for oil.)
rod1965 All-Star Author Portland Posts:616 Points:95,125 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:38:35 AM	Ignore rod1965 Report Abuse
	All political B. S. no matter what country.
TTPDX Sophomore Author Portland Posts:231 Points:41,145 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:37:55 AM	Ignore TTPDX Report Abuse
	Mini-Bush indeed. Good luck w your election, neighbors!
USAFA82 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:1,520 Points:258,795 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:37:32 AM	Ignore USAFA82 Report Abuse
	Sounds like Harper has good ideas
Retowered Champion Author Colorado Posts:1,005 Points:1,087,135 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:36:50 AM	Ignore Retowered Report Abuse
	OK.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:8,366 Points:1,316,380 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:35:27 AM	Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse
	Does Canada actually have a coherent energy policy? We certainly don't. And is this oil money going to be one of those silly "glide paths" to zero debt/zero deficit? Don't trust any politician that touts it, American nor Canadian..
ladyjj Champion Author Tennessee Posts:1,455 Points:161,295 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:35:11 AM	Ignore ladyjj Report Abuse
	Man if you spend the money right in the first place then people don't mind paying it the fact that you don't spend the money right that people get tired of paying! You all in Government need to listen to your people, But no you get into office and just spend spend spend with out a care in the world about Who's money your really spending! Death and Taxes!!!!
BBopp Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,281 Points:554,395 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:32:41 AM	Ignore BBopp Report Abuse
	This is a plan, I hope it works out well for the citizens.
timwil Champion Author Arkansas Posts:2,246 Points:492,130 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 9/9/2008 9:31:25 AM	Ignore timwil Report Abuse
	ok